Nikon Showcase Nikon D610 Image thread

Ray why would the noise performance be better on the D610/D750 versus the D7100 or D700, particularly when using RAW

D7100 = 24MP = DX
D610/D740 = 24MP = FX

bigger pixel density per inch on D7100

I can understand why with jpegs could be better because of the (new) better engine … but with RAW I do not understand why, as any noise reduction should be the same "in camera" (is there any - don't think so) or in specialist software.

same comments with the D700

I crop a lot - use spot, (single cell), focus and spot exposure - generally with bird photography

AF tracking does not concern me too much .. as I am OK with BIF with the D7100 or D700

Pixel density and pixel size are a large part of ISO performance in my experience given similar age technology. It was the same with the D300/D700 as it is with the D7100/D(pick your 24mp FX). The D800 in 15.3mp DX crop also produces cleaner images than a D7100 at the same ISO and the D7100 is a year newer. Since you say you crop a lot the pixel density you will lose with the angle of view difference may be a big consideration.
 
After 3 months with the D610. The IQ it gives me is exactly what I wish M43 could deliver.

M43 is AMAZING for close to midrange subjects like macro, food, still life even in low light like concerts or dinners. I find that it really shines in that regard and I would prefer using M43 for those things. Also far away subjects that require a telephoto lens. Shots I've seen from the Oly 40-150mm F2.8 and Panasonic 100-300mm are just incredible.

It's in landscape and large depth of field shots especially where there is bright lights and dark shadows where I find FF has an edge over M43. I've seen amazing M43 landscape shots but in my own results, I simply just see the difference.

Also bokeh. I really prefer the look and separation that a 50mm F1.8 on FF gives as oppose to a 25mm F1.4 on M43 in regards to portraits.

I won't lie, I am hoping that the next M43 sensor, organic or not, drastically improves in dynamic range and pixel quality with distant subjects.

As of now. I'm simply going to wait for the next round of sensors from APSC/M43 because Sony FE mount with the lenses I want would be expensive and large.


The sensor in the D600/D610 IS very good. I'm just glad they upgrade the body / AF to match. Really like my D750.
 
After 3 months with the D610. The IQ it gives me is exactly what I wish M43 could deliver.

M43 is AMAZING for close to midrange subjects like macro, food, still life even in low light like concerts or dinners. I find that it really shines in that regard and I would prefer using M43 for those things. Also far away subjects like animals that require a telephoto lens. Shots I've seen from the Oly 40-150mm F2.8 and Panasonic 100-300mm are just incredible.

It's in landscape and large depth of field shots especially where there is bright lights and dark shadows where I find FF has an edge over M43. I've seen amazing M43 landscape shots but in my own results, I simply just see the difference.

Also bokeh. I really prefer the look and separation that a 50mm F1.8 on FF gives as oppose to a 25mm F1.4 on M43 in regards to portraits.

I won't lie, I am hoping that the next M43 sensor, organic or not, drastically improves in dynamic range and pixel quality with distant subjects.

As of now. I'm simply going to wait for the next round of sensors from APSC/M43 because Sony FE mount with the lenses I want would be expensive and large.
The sensor in the D610 is pretty amazing - same as the RX1 and A7 / A7ii but with the full 14-bit raw data available. The D750 uses the same sensor with a somewhat updated processor, so it produced better jpegs but roughly the same in raw. A really well exposed shot in good light will look just about as good with m43 or APS if you don't do too much processing. Where the D610 blows it away is it gives you more latitude both to recover the shot if the exposure is off by a bit (potentially even quite a bit) and to process it however you'd like - in ways that m43 and APS files just wouldn't hold up under. My first week or so with the RX1 a couple of years ago was my first exposure to full frame files and I was just absolutely floored - I first saw it when I was processing shots but it eventually wormed it's way into my consciousness enough to influence the way I shot with it, knowing I could do things I couldn't with other cameras. The D610 was the same thing - slightly better but not that I could really see - although the lenses I was using weren't as good as the Zeiss on the RX1...

Have fun with it!

-Ray
 
Two images, same location and time. One I photographed at eye level and the other as low as I could go without an articulating screen. I sure wish all cameras had flippy screens.
So, did you end up buying one? In your earlier posts, you said you had one on loan but didn't see buying one because of the size/weight and lack of EVF. Did you change your mind or do you still have it on loan?

In either case, great sunset shots. I find sunrise, sunset seem to really be great for the sensor in the D610 - shooting into a rising or falling sun you can still shoot at base ISO and you can use all of that incredible DR to bring out details in the clouds that you wouldn't be able to get to with some lesser sensors. Here are a couple of sunset/sunrise shots I did during the short period when I had the D610 last summer, before deciding the Df represented a better set of tradeoffs for me - both were pretty flat when I first opened them up, but it took very little work to raise the drama level just enough:

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LBI Sunset
by ramboorider1, on Flickr

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Sunrise-2-Edit
by ramboorider1, on Flickr

-Ray
 
So, did you end up buying one? In your earlier posts, you said you had one on loan but didn't see buying one because of the size/weight and lack of EVF. Did you change your mind or do you still have it on loan?

In either case, great sunset shots. I find sunrise, sunset seem to really be great for the sensor in the D610 - shooting into a rising or falling sun you can still shoot at base ISO and you can use all of that incredible DR to bring out details in the clouds that you wouldn't be able to get to with some lesser sensors. Here are a couple of sunset/sunrise shots I did during the short period when I had the D610 last summer, before deciding the Df represented a better set of tradeoffs for me - both were pretty flat when I first opened them up, but it took very little work to raise the drama level just enough:

-Ray

Still have it. They've given it to me for longer than I expected which is nice. I'm still undecided though!
 
Hypothetically, If I did buy today. It would be between the D610 with the 16-35mm F4 and the Sony A7 Mk II with the 16-35mm F4. I really like the 50mm F1.8G on Nikon so that would sway me. It sucks that Sony don't have a cheap, small 50mm F1.8.

I'm saving up to get married next year so I can't buy anything big like that anyway, probably a good thing because I do want to see what the DR is on the next M43 and Fujifilm sensor. I'll be making the most out of this D610 until I have to give it back which I guess I'll have to start bracketing with my M43.

Ultimately this is just a passion of mine and so it's hard to justify spending so much money especially since my M43 gear isn't even two years old! My gear usually lasts me 3 years.
 
Was hoping for the overcast sky to stay but alas by the time I got to the lighthouse, the sun was out in full force.

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Going up to the lighthouse
by William Solis, on Flickr

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Going up to the lighthouse
by William Solis, on Flickr

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Going up to the lighthouse
by William Solis, on Flickr

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Going up to the lighthouse
by William Solis, on Flickr

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Going up to the lighthouse
by William Solis, on Flickr

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Going up to the lighthouse
by William Solis, on Flickr

The panorama didn't stitch perfectly but it's good enough for me.

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bloody bend
by William Solis, on Flickr
 
Nice! I assume the potency is responsible for the slight haze in your processing? :cool:

What lens are you using? I'd guess Sigma Art, except the rendering from that lens can tend to be pretty even and clinical and it isn't known for such nice bokeh.

-Ray
 
My processing has never been true to life that's for sure and I'll happily admit that it's always been more about how I saw the shot at the time rather than what was actually there...and this is no exception...warm and a little fuzzy. Looking through the shots I took that night, I think after midnight the D610 could have used some of that Olympus 5-axis IBIS ! :)

Yeah, you got it, the Sigma 35. I'm looking forward to getting some quality time with it over the coming months. I agree, the Bokeh is quite uniform but I find it to be subtle and pleasing, almost gentle...I do however think Sigma optimised the lens for across the frame sharpness which is something it does ridiculously well and is a characteristic which will come in handy for mid wide-ish landscape and urban/architectural shooting.
 
Yesterday morning

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Tuesday Morning[/URL] by Will Solis, on Flickr

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Tuesday Morning
by Will Solis, on Flickr

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Tuesday Morning
by Will Solis, on Flickr

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Tuesday Morning
by Will Solis, on Flickr
 
Every second Tuesday late afternoon the construction management teams for the company I work for all get together to discuss the progress of the various jobs, boring as heck, but the office is just around the corner from the beach, which is where I went for an early evening coffee and a stroll as soon as the meeting was over.

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Port Melbourne
by Joe Krizan, on Flickr
 
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